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FOR THE BIBLE
TELLS ME SO




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RECOMMENDED
READING
 

Christianity, Social
Tolerance, and
Homosexuality

by John Boswell
 

Good News for
Modern Gays
by Rev. Sylvia
Pennington
 

Sex Positive
by Larry J. Uhrig
 

Homosexuality and
Religion
Edited by
Richard Hasbany PhD
 

Living in Sin?
by Bishop John
Shelby Spong

 

What the Bible
Really Says About
Homosexuality
by Daniel Helminiak
 

Openly Gay
Openly Christian
by Rev. Samuel Kader
 

Steps To Recovery
From Bible Abuse
by Rembert Truluck
 


 



Jesus, The Bible
and Homosexuality:
Explode the Myths,
Heal the Church
by Jack Rogers


A Presbyterian USA
perspective...  Former
PC USA General Assembly
Moderator who changed
his views on gay issues
and is now a strong
advocate for full
inclusion in the life
of the church

Amazon:
READ BOOK REVIEWS

Whosoever Ministry:
READ ARTICLE


Strut:
READ ARTICLE




Right Rev.

John Shelby Spong


General Info:
Retired Episcopal
Bishop of Newark


BeliefNet Articles:
Was St Paul Gay?
And Other Ideas


Unofficial Fan
Website


Revolutionary, Rational
Anti-Religionist

 

Wikipedia Info

Amazon:
Why Christianity
Must Change or Die


BrainyQuote:
JSSpong Quotes

 


SHOWN AT BIRMINGHAM'S SIDEWALK FILM FESTIVAL...
FOR THE BIBLE TELLS ME SO

New Movie About 5 Christian American Families
Dealing With GLBT Issues
 



Can the love between two people ever be an abomination? Is the chasm separating gays and lesbians and Christianity too wide to cross? Is the Bible an excuse to hate?

Winner of the Audience Award for Best Documentary at the Seattle International Film Festival, Dan Karslake's provocative, entertaining documentary brilliantly reconciles homosexuality and Biblical scripture, and in the process reveals that Church-sanctioned anti-gay bias is based almost solely upon a significant (and often malicious) misinterpretation of the Bible. As the film notes, most Christians live their lives today without feeling obliged to kill anyone who works on the Sabbath or eats shrimp (as a literal reading of scripture dictates).

Through the experiences of five very normal, very Christian, very American families -- including those of former House Majority Leader Richard Gephardt and Episcopalian Bishop Gene Robinson -- we discover how insightful people of faith handle the realization of having a gay child. Informed by such respected voices as Bishop Desmond Tutu, Harvard's Peter Gomes, Orthodox Rabbi Steve Greenberg and Reverend Jimmy Creech, FOR THE BIBLE TELLS ME SO offers healing, clarity and understanding to anyone caught in the crosshairs of scripture and sexual identity.

Learn more about the movie.
http://www.forthebibletellsmeso.org/indexc.htm

 


GLBT RELIGIOUS CONCERNS
Poignant Commentary

My sexual orientation is not a sickness to be healed or a sin to be forgiven.  My sexual orientation is a gift from my Creator to be accepted, celebrated, and lived with integrity.

ChristianGay.Com

 

"It is never legitimate to use the words of scripture to promote a loveless agenda."
Right Rev. Dr. Peter Short / Moderator of United Church of Canada

 

"The Bible contains six admonishments to homosexuals and 362 admonishments to heterosexuals. That doesn't mean that God doesn't love heterosexuals. It's just that they need more supervision."    
Lynn Lavner

 

"It took the Catholic Church 359 years to admit that they were wrong when they accused Galileo of heresy and condemned him to death, unless he recanted that the earth rotates around the sun. Since he wanted to live, he was forced to deny the truth and agree with the Church that the sun rotates around the earth, but he was still placed under house arrest until his death.

"The Church is powerful and has a history of pressuring society and individuals to say and believe what "the Church" thinks is right. They were wrong then and they are wrong now regarding homosexuality. Let's hope it doesn't take them that long this time to discover and admit their error."

ChristianGay.Com

 

"The Scriptures have been misused to defend bloody crusades and inquisitions; to support slavery, apartheid, and segregation; to sanction the physical and emotional abuse of women and children; to persecute Jews and other non-Christian people of faith; to support the holocaust of Hitler's Third Reich; to oppose medical science; to condemn inter-racial marriage; to execute women as witches; to excuse the violent racism of the Ku Klux Klan; to mobilize militias, white supremacy and neo-nazi movements; and to condone intolerance and discrimination against sexual minorities. "
Mel White / Letter to Jerry Falwell

 


SELECTIVE USE OF BIBLE IN CAMPUS INCIDENT
Open Letter to High School Teacher in Miami
 

Selective Use of The Bible Shifts Focus Off Faith...
An Open Letter From Leonard Pitts to Donna Reddick (Teacher at High School in Miami)

I'm writing this for Desiree.  She's a student at Miami Sunset Senior High, where you teach business technology.  She sent me an e-mail recounting an incident that happened on campus recently.

It seems on three successive days, the morning announcements, which are televised throughout the school, featured student-produced segments on the subject of gay rights.  On the first day came comments from students who took the pro position.  On the second day came remarks from a counselor who spoke of the need for students to respect one another.  On the third day came you.

You and a few students, actually.  One told classmates homosexuality was "unacceptable in the eyesight of God."  Another said gays were "unrighteous."  The coup de grace, though, was you, invoking Sodom and Gomorrah and telling students homosexuality was "wrong according to the Bible" because God ordered humanity to multiply, which gay couples cannot do.

Desiree was, to put it mildly, upset.  In the e-mail, she accused you of bigotry and wondered how a gay student could ever again feel assured of fair treatment in your class.  I tend to agree.  She also suggested that you crossed the line between church and state, an accusation about which I am more conflicted.  It seems to me there's a difference between proselytizing for a religion and explaining how one's faith has influenced one's opinion. You're entitled to think what you think, no matter how stupid it might be.

But I'll leave those questions for others to parse.  My biggest frustration lies elsewhere.  Put simply, I've had it up to here with the moral hypocrisy and intellectual constipation of Bible literalists.

By which I mean people like you, who dress their homophobia up in Scripture, insisting with sanctimonious sincerity that it's not homophobia at all, but just a pious determination to live according to what the Bible says.  And never mind the Bible also says it is "disgraceful" for a woman to speak out in church (I Corinthians 14:34-36) and that if she has any questions, she should wait till she gets home and ask her husband.  Never mind the Bible says the penalty for going to work on Sunday (Exodus 35:1-3) is death.  Never mind the Bible says the man who rapes a virgin should buy her from her father (Deuteronomy 22:28-29) and marry her.

I'm going to speculate you don't observe or support those commands.  Which says to me yours is a literalism of convenience, a literalism that is literal only so long as it allows you to condemn what you'd be condemning anyway and takes no skin off your personal backside.

You resemble many of your and my co-religionists, whose faith so often expresses itself in an obsessive focus on one or two hot-button issues -- and seemingly nowhere else.  They're so panicked at the thought that somebody might accidentally treat gay people like people.  Meantime, people are ignorant in Appalachia, strung out in Miami, starving in Niger, sex slaves in India, mass murdered in Darfur.  Where is the Christian outrage about that?

Just once, I'd like to read a headline that said a Christian group was boycotting to feed the hungry.  Or marching to house the homeless.  Or pushing Congress to provide the poor with healthcare worthy of the name.

Instead, they fixate on keeping the gays in their place.  Which makes me question their priorities.  And their compassion.  And their faith.

If you love me, feed my sheep.  For the record, Ms. Reddick, the Bible says that, too.

Leonard Pitts is a Pulitzer Prize winning columnist for The Miami Herald


 


RELIGION & HOMOSEXUALITY
Gay Friendly Churches, Temples, & Mosques
 

Most of the oppression against gay, lesbian, bisexual, transgender and questioning people (such as same-sex marriage and sodomy laws) comes from the church or religious organizations. This is a very difficult situation for religious glbtq people who find themselves either continuing their spiritual life with churches that preach against their inclusion or having no home at all to nurture their spiritual needs.

Gays seeking fellowship with their higher power don't have to journey alone. There are several religious organizations and churches within major denominations that are dedicated to fostering a welcoming environment for all people, including queers. Find an organization that best fits your religious needs.

Baptist
Association of Welcoming & Affirming Baptists
Welcomes and affirms all persons without regard to sexual orientation or gender identity, and who have joined together to advocate for the full inclusion of lesbian, gay, bisexual and transgender persons within Baptist communities of faith.

Buddhist
Gay Buddhist Fellowship
Supports Buddhist practices in the gay community and brings together the diverse Buddhist traditions to address the spiritual concerns of gay men.

Catholic
DignityUSA
Works for respect and justice for all gay, lesbian, bisexual, and transgender persons in the Catholic Church and the world through education, advocacy and support.

Christian Church (Disciples of Christ)
Gay, Lesbian, and Affirming Disciples Alliance
Organization of lesbian, gay, bisexual, transgendered, and affirming members of the Christian Church (Disciples of Christ) with a prophetic voice calling for the full inclusion of LGBT persons in the Church.

Episcopal
Integrity
Fostering the full inclusion of LGBT persons in the Episcopal Church, using integrity as the leading grass roots voice.

Evangelical
Evangelicals Concerned
Encourages and affirms lesbian, gay, bisexual and transgendered Christians in their faith.

Jewish
World Congress of Gay, Lesbian, Bisexual, and Transgender Jews: Keshet Ga’avah
The worldwide voice of LGBT Jews seeking to support, inspire, and strengthen local groups; foster a sense of community among diverse individuals and organizations; and achieve equality and security for LGBT Jews worldwide.

Lutheran
Lutherans Concerned
embody, inspire, and support the acceptance and full participation of people of all sexual orientations and gender identities, their families, friends and allies, within the Lutheran communion and its ecumenical and global partners.

Metropolitan Community Church
Metropolitan Community Church
Founded in and reaching beyond the gay and lesbian communities and seeking the integration of spirituality and sexuality.

Muslim
Al-Fatiha Foundation
Dedicated to Muslims who are lesbian, gay, bisexual, transgender, intersex, questioning, those exploring their sexual orientation or gender identity, and their allies, families and friends.

Presbyterian
More Light Presbyterians
Following the risen Christ, and seeking to make the Church a true community of hospitality, the mission of More Light Presbyterians is to work for the full participation of lesbian, gay, bisexual and transgender people of faith in the life, ministry and witness of the Presbyterian Church (USA).

Quaker (Religious Society of Friends)
Friends for Lesbian, Gay, Bisexual, Transgender, and Queer Concerns
A North American Quaker faith community that affirms God in all people; learning that radical inclusion and radical love bring further light to Quaker testimony and life.

Seventh-day Adventist
Seventh-day Adventist Kinship
Devoted to the spiritual, emotional, social and physical well-being of current and former Seventh-day Adventists who are lesbian, gay, bisexual or transgendered.

Unitarian
Unitarian Universalism
Office of the Unitarian Universalist Association dedicated to fighting oppression against bisexual, gay, lesbian, and/or transgender people.

United Church of Christ
The UCC Coalition for Lesbian, Gay, Bisexual, and Transgender Concerns
Provides support and sanctuary to all our lesbian, gay, bisexual and transgender sisters and brothers, their families and friends; advocates for their full inclusion in church and society; and brings Christ's affirming message of love and justice for all people.

United Methodist
Affirmation: United Methodists for Lesbian, Gay, Bisexual & Transgender Concerns
Pursues full inclusion in the Church through respect, love, justice and mercy for all.

Unity
Association of Unity Churches
Teaches the practical application in everyday life of the principles of Truth taught and exemplified by Jesus Christ, leading to health, prosperity, happiness, and peace of mind.

From About Gay Life by Ramon Johnson
 


SOULFORCE
Mel White's GLBT Ministry

 

Mel White
SoulForce President
and Co-Founder


The Reverend Dr. Mel White is a former ghostwriter for fellow evangelicals, including Billy Graham, Pat Robertson, Jim Bakker, and Jerry Falwell.

He founded the GLBT activist organization, Soul Force.  Inspired by the nonviolence movements of Gandhi and Martin Luther King Jr., White developed a program based on their principles to address the suffering of lesbian, gay, bisexual, and transgender people. In 1997, he was awarded the ACLU's National Civil Liberties Award for his efforts to apply the "soul force" principles of Gandhi and King to the struggle for justice for sexual minorities.

He is the author of over 16 books, including Stranger at the Gate: To Be Gay and Christian in America, published in 1994, and Religion Gone Bad: The Hidden Dangers of the Christian Right, published in 2006.


Visit the Soul Force website for more information about this ministry.

www.soulforce.org
 


GAY EPISCOPAL BISHOP
Gene Robinson



One of the central figures in the movie For the Bible Tells Me So is Bishop Gene Robinson of New Hampshire, the first-ever openly gay man to be elected a Bishop of the Episcopalian Church. Robinson's consecration in 2003 (at which he had to wear a bullet-proof vest due to death threats) was a historical occasion that caused a rift in the Episcopal church. O

n a more personal level, the consecration was the penultimate moment of the path on which Robinson had embarked some 20 years earlier when, with the support of his then-wife, Isabella, Robinson came out of the closet after years of attempting to live as a straight man and seeking counseling to rid himself of his "homosexual feelings."

 


IS HOMOSEXUALITY A SIN?
Comments From Clergy

Question: In your opinion, does God regard homosexuality as a sin?


Baptist: Dr. Stayton - Absolutely not! There is nothing in the Bible or in my own theology that would lead me to believe that God regards homosexuality as sin. God is interested in our relationships with ourselves, others, the things in our lives, and with God. There is nothing in the mind of God that could be against a loving, sexual relationship, freely entered into, without coercion, among sincere adults whether gay, bisexual or straight.


Episcopalian: Bishop John Shelby Spong
- Some argue that since homosexual behavior is "unnatural," it is contrary to the order of creation. Behind this pronouncement are stereotypic definitions of masculinity and femininity that reflect the rigid gender categories of patriarchal society. There is nothing unnatural about any shared love, even between two of the same gender, if that experience calls both partners into a fuller state of being. Contemporary research is uncovering new facts that are producing a rising conviction that homosexuality, far from being a sickness, sin, perversion or unnatural act, is a healthy natural, and affirming of human sexuality for some people. Findings indicate that homosexuality is a given fact in the nature of a significant portion of people, and that it is unchangeable.
 

Our prejudice rejects people or things outside our understanding. But the God of creation speaks and declares, "I have looked out on everything I have made and 'behold it (is) very good'."(Gen.1:31) The work of God in Christ says that we are loved, valued, redeemed, and counted as precious no matter how we might be valued by a prejudiced world.


Episcopalian: Bishop Wood
- No. Our sexual orientation is a given, something we discover about ourselves - some might say "a gift from God." How one relates to others - caring or exploiting - is the source of sin.


Judaism: Rabbi Lazar
- First of all, I do not know what God thinks. In my opinion, homosexuality is not a sin, but an alternate lifestyle. In my opinion, homosexuality by itself is not immoral. When sex is used to corrupt, for prurient and/or exploitative purposes or selfish reasons or to hurt someone else, this is immoral.


Judaism: Rabbi Marder
- The God I worship endorses loving, committed, monogamous relationships, regardless of the gender of those involved.

 

Judaism: Rabbi Wilson - No, not so long as the behavior is not obsessive, responsible and safe, non-abusive, and the manifestation of a loving, respectful relationship.


Presbyterian: Dr. Edwards
- God does not regard homosexuality as a sin any more than heterosexuality. Sin is a lack of respect or love for God; it is a lack of love or respect for other persons. Whether gay or straight, therefore, one may sin against God or others. But God forgives us when we sin and strengthens us in resisting sin. We are led by God's forgiving love to become more respectful and loving toward God and others, even those we don't "like."
 

Presbyterian: Rev. Holfelder - No, I do not think that God regards homosexuality as a sin. I believe that one's sexual preference is first and foremost a matter of biology (creation) and only secondarily a matter of choice (responsibility). Since I also believe that all God creates is good, I conclude that human sexuality (no a matter of choice for anyone) is good, whether that sexual expression be heterosexual or homosexual.


Roman Catholic: Sister Ford
- Two truths are especially relevant in thinking this through. First we have a theological point. God, the one who has made all of creation, loves and cherishes all creatures without exception. Second, modern psychology shows us that homosexual orientation is set by age five or six. Most psychologists agree that it is not a matter of choice; whether orientation is inborn as some think, or acquired very early, as others say. How then could an all-loving God possibly violate Divine nature and regard homosexuals as "sinners?"

 

Unitarian Universalist: Dr. Schulz - I do not believe that God regards homosexuality as a sin. In the first place, of course, I do not believe in an anthropomorphic god who defines or delineates sinful behavior. But even if I did, I cannot believe that such a God would reject any of His/Her children on the basis of their affectional orientations. If He/She did, such a God would not be one to whom I would want to pay homage.


United Church of Christ: Dr. Lebacqz
- What god DOES regard as a sin is oppression, injustice, disrespect for persons. This sin, then, is homophobia, gay-bashing, discriminatory legislation toward lesbians and gays, refusal to include lesbian/gay/bisexual people into our churches and communities. To force ANY people, whether for reasons of race, age, or sexual orientation, into a "ghetto" - this is a sin.
 

United Church of Christ: Dr. Nelson - I am convinced that our sexuality and our sexual orientations, whatever they may be, are a gift from God. Sexual sin does not reside in our orientations, but rather in expressing our sexuality in ways that harm, oppress, or use others for our own selfish gratification. When we express ourselves sexually in ways that are loving and just, faithful and responsible, then I am convinced that God celebrates our sexuality, whatever our orientation may be.
 

United Methodist: Bishop Wheatley - Of course not! The preponderance of evidence now available identifies homosexuality to be as natural a sexual orientation for the majority of persons. Homosexuality is an authentic condition of being with which some persons are endowed (a gift of God, if you please), not an optional sexual life-style which they have willfully, whimsically or sinfully chosen. Certainly one's sexuality - heterosexual or homosexual - may be acted out in behaviors that are sinful: brutal, exploitative, selfish, superficial. But just as surely, one's homosexual orientation as well as another's heterosexual orientation may be acted out in ways that are beautiful: tender, considerate, mutual, responsible, loyal, profound.


 


WHY THE POPE HATES GAYS

Is Homosexuality a Sin?
 

Lord knows why the Pope truly hates gays! The debate over homosexuality and religion has been a heated discussion for some time now. The issue of homosexuality has split churches like the Episcopal Church while at the same time uniting others such as the Metropolitan Community Church, with a predominantly gay membership.

Does God condemn gays? Is homosexuality a sin? Or is being gay truly "insidious" in the eyes of God, as the late Pope John Paul II described in his book "Memory and Identity"?

Homosexuality Is a Sin!

The late John Paul II and therefore the Vatican's stance on gays is clear: homosexuality is a sin and gay marriage "attempts to pit human rights against the family and against man." In the late Pope's philosophical work on the nature of good and evil, "Memory and Identity," gay marriages are considered an integral part of "a new ideology of evil" plaguing our world today.

After all, the Bible itself sites passages condemning homosexual activity:

"You shall not lie with a male as with a woman: it is an abomination" (Lev 18:22).

"If a man lies with a male as with a woman, both of them have committed an abomination: they shall be put to death: their blood is upon them" (Lev 20:13).

"God gave them up to degrading passions. Their women exchanged natural intercourse for unnatural, and in the same way also the men, giving up natural intercourse with women, were consumed with passion for one another. Men committed shameless acts with men and received in their own persons the due penalty for their error" (Rom 1:26-27).

"Do you not know that wrongdoers will not inherit the kingdom of God? Do not be deceived! Fornicators, idolaters, adulterers, male prostitutes, sodomites, thieves, the greedy, drunkards, revilers, robbers - none of these will inherit the kingdom of God" (1 Cor 6:9-10).

The condemnation of the law applies for those "who kill their father or mother, for murderers, fornicators, sodomites, slave traders, liars, perjurers" ( 1 Tim 1:9-10).

God Loves Gays Too!

Many religious supporters disagree that homosexuality is a sin in the eyes of God, including those that fought for the inauguration of the Episcopal Church's first
Openly Gay Bishop V. Gene Robinson, a decision that divided the church but promoted a more progressive religious community.

Some religious scholars believe that the intent of references to homosexuality in the Bible may not relate to same-sex relations at all. Walter Wink, Professor of Biblical Interpretation at Auburn Theological Seminary describes in his presentation on Homosexuality and the Bible:

"Some passages that have been advanced as pertinent to the issue of homosexuality are, in fact, irrelevant. One is the attempted gang rape in Sodom (Gen. 19:1-29), since that was a case of ostensibly heterosexual males intent on humiliating strangers by treating them "like women," thus demasculinizing them. (This is also the case in a similar account in Judges 19-21.) Their brutal behavior has nothing to do with the problem of whether genuine love expressed between consenting adults of the same sex is legitimate or not. Likewise Deut. 23:17-18 must be pruned from the list, since it most likely refers to a heterosexual prostitute involved in Canaanite fertility rites that have infiltrated Jewish worship; the King James Version inaccurately labeled him a 'sodomite.'"

The Verdict!

In the end only the Lord can tell us which side the scale should tip. Until then the controversy over gays and religion will continue.

From About Gay Life by Ramon Johnson

 

 

 


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